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Ok, don't laugh at me like some moron, but this seriously makes some sense, I didn't give this any meret at first, but seriously read into it. It freaks me out. This 
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will someone please give this some thought. pieter, i know your intelligent enough to read this. trust me.
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"Skepticism is not a position; skepticism is an approach to
claims,
in the same way that science is not a subject but a method....
...Skepticism is a vital part of science.
It is a set of methods designed to describe and interpret observed
or inferred phenomena, past or present, and aimed at building a
testable body of knowledge open to rejection or confirmation." - WHy People Believe Weird Things by Michael Shermer
Be a skeptic, do NOT immediately trust whatever you read/see till you know more and have proven/reasoned it beyond a reasonable doubt. 
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quote:
Originally posted by Protector:
"Skepticism is not a position; skepticism is an approach to
claims,
in the same way that science is not a subject but a method....
...Skepticism is a vital part of science.
It is a set of methods designed to describe and interpret observed
or inferred phenomena, past or present, and aimed at building a
testable body of knowledge open to rejection or confirmation." - WHy People Believe Weird Things by Michael Shermer
Be a skeptic, do NOT immediately trust whatever you read/see till you know more and have proven/reasoned it beyond a reasonable doubt.
I'M not saying I belive it, i'm sazying that it makes some sense. I'll tell you this, I am NOT f*cking crazy, and I have seen this shit with my own eyes in the real world. I dont know if this is going on in singapore, but here, I see it every day.
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dude, are you serious?
it's a bunch of scientific nonsense. "Electro-sensitivity of the soil"? "advanced nazi mind control science."? My opinion is that there are too many schizophrenics running around.
but then, I could secretly be working for the nazi-connected new world order they're talking about, so don't trust me.
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quote:
Originally posted by Pieter:
dude, are you serious?
it's a bunch of scientific nonsense. "Electro-sensitivity of the soil"? "advanced nazi mind control science."? My opinion is that there are too many schizophrenics running around.
but then, I could secretly be working for the nazi-connected new world order they're talking about, so don't trust me.
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about chemtrails. the US Gov. has said it, a real contrail quickly dissapates, all they are made up of are condensed ice crystals. They dissapate very quickly after a plane has passed, a chemtrail is different, it lingers for hours and spreads across the sky. I tell you I didn't believe it untill I saw it with my own eyes. I'm not kidding. Seriously, before you laugh this off as bullshit hear me out and give it some thought. Come on, what have you got to lose?
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what have I got to lose? well time for one thing
so far all you've told me is that chemtrails are lasting longer than they should. Is that really evidence of a massive conspiracy or the fact that a combination of humidity and temperature are causing a chemical reaction that makes the contrails last longer?
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quote:
Originally posted by Pieter:
what have I got to lose? well time for one thing
so far all you've told me is that chemtrails are lasting longer than they should. Is that really evidence of a massive conspiracy or the fact that a combination of humidity and temperature are causing a chemical reaction that makes the contrails last longer?
just google it man. its so easy.
check this out too.
"What's the difference between a jet contrail and a chemtrail? According to the U.S. Air Force, jet contrails form above 33,000 feet when hot engine exhaust momentarily condenses ice crystals into pencil-thin vapor trails that quickly vanish like the wake behind a boat.
Chemtrails (CTs) look like contrails initially, but are much thicker, extend across the sky and are often laid down in varying patterns of Xs, tick-tack-toe grids, cross-hatched and parallel lines. Instead of quickly dissipating, chemtrails expand and drip feathers and mare s tails. In 30 minutes or less, they open into wispy formations which join together, forming a thin white veil or a "fake cirrus-type cloud" that persists for hours."
that "this" up at the top is a link which may of may not work....
This message was edited by DeadRabbit on 10 Jun 2004 05:32 AM
This message was edited by DeadRabbit on 10 Jun 2004 05:38 AM
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also, pieter, where do you live?
this is the site btw if you didnt get it before http://www.rense.com/politics6/chemdatapage.html
This message was edited by DeadRabbit on 10 Jun 2004 05:36 AM
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Well you asked me for my opinion, so I'm giving it: it's a big hoax.
The existence of a huge and sinister plot is completely lacking in evidence. The logistics of such a massive spraying program could not be hidden from any oversight. There is also no evidence whatsoever of aircraft modified to perform some of the spraying methodologies that are proposed. Anecdotal "evidence" of any illnesses caused by contrails is not backed up by any reliable data (and is actually contradicted by others). There has never been any evidence of anyone collecting some of this "chemtrail" material in situ, having it tested by any reputable laboratory, and presented to anyone.
Every characteristic of "chemtrails" can be just as logically and rationally explained by normal contrails under normal (but differentiating) atmospheric conditions. This is the scientist in me speaking, who tends to be analytical and skeptical versus giving into every fear that tries to project itself.
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quote:
Originally posted by Pieter:
Well you asked me for my opinion, so I'm giving it: it's a big hoax.
Every characteristic of "chemtrails" can be just as logically and rationally explained by normal contrails under normal (but differentiating) atmospheric conditions.
Pieter, but here i see this shit every day. I never saw one in Costa Rica. never
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Originally posted by DeadRabbit:
Pieter, but here i see this shit every day. I never saw one in Costa Rica. never
I don't know where "here" is, but I'm presuming it might have something to do with climate + # of planes?
contrails are just like clouds, sometimes they hang around and sometimes they don't, and it largely depends on temperature+humidity+altitude.
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i made a chemtrail this morning. it stunk pretty bad too.
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wow, this makes total sense. what can we do about it, deadrabbit? i don't want to be electro-sensitive. i've noticed that i seem to be developing an increased affinity for metal objects. help me, i don't want to become magneto!
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Originally posted by evilsaggi:
wow, this makes total sense. what can we do about it, deadrabbit? i don't want to be electro-sensitive. i've noticed that i seem to be developing an increased affinity for metal objects. help me, i don't want to become magneto!
but being magneto would be awesome. Whatever, if you guys don't want to listen I just won't bring it up again. It's that easy.
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but being magneto would be awesome. Whatever, if you guys don't want to listen I just won't bring it up again. It's that easy.
it's just a debate, man. it's nice to see some intellectual arguing going on. it's refreshing. why are you pussing out so easily?
This message was edited by AlterEgo on 11 Jun 2004 03:19 AM
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it's just a debate, man. it's nice to see some intellectual arguing going on. it's refreshing. why are you pussing out so easily?
If no one wants to hear it, theres no point. Anyways I thought it would be a bad idea in the first place.
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Originally posted by DeadRabbit:
If no one wants to hear it, theres no point. Anyways I thought it would be a bad idea in the first place.
People disagreeing doesn't mean that they are not listening to what you were saying... You can't just expect everyone to believe with whatever you've said without trying to convince them with prove and some logical reasoning. You are "feeling" that it's real...but where's the basest for that? Emotions is never a good judge of things... 
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Ok, I KNOW that you guys won't believe me, but yestarday i actually saw a plane (i watched it for 20 min or so) spray across the sky, turn around, come back, and then do it again. look, Today, tomorrow, for the next week, just pay attention to what goes on above your head. honestly take some time to watch these things, especially late in the day, thats when They are most active. then label me a Dumbass afterwards if you want to.
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i wouldn't specifically call you a dumbass... just gullible.
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