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Frankly, I can't have any serious thoughts about UFOs. What else can be said about UFOs, except that they are unidentified.
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There's something outside my window and I don't know what it is...!!!
Some Unidentified Object...and it's FLYING!!! 
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Frankly, I can't have any serious thoughts about UFOs. What else can be said about UFOs, except that they are unidentified.
Imagine the "technologies" impact behind it either man-make, ?ET? or natures 
I guess u haven't aware the seriousness of http://www.disclosureproject.org 
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I'm willing to bet there are just as many people who will testify they have seen a statue of virgin Mary cry. never underestimate the limit to human stupidity. if people want to believe something badly enough, it will happen in their own minds
I'm not saying it's impossible for aliens to visit earth, I'm saying it's extremely improbable and therefore I'm rather skeptical.
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Well, guess more ppl will accept religious miracles as compare on those lotsa "big shot" reputatable creditable folks willing to be "ridicule" testifing in disclosureproject.org
BTW, just come across this interesting article on Alien-like microbes found deep underground.
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Well, guess more ppl will accept religious miracles as compare on those lotsa "big shot" reputatable creditable folks willing to be "ridicule" testifing in disclosureproject.org
BTW, just come across this interesting article on Alien-like microbes found deep underground.
people will accept anything they want to believe, as long as it makes them feel important. and so what if a bunch of "big shot reputatable creditable" folk say it's true? do you always follow the leader or do you think for yourself? I'll wait untill someone with some tangible evidence or the aliens themselves appear.
In science, the burden of proof falls upon the claimant. I'm not going to argue UFO's with you anymore because if we really knew what as in them, they wouldn't be unidentified. some crappy recording of a moving light in the sky is unconvincing as alien-evidence to anyone with a working brain.
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In science, the burden of proof falls upon the claimant. I'm not going to argue UFO's with you anymore because if we really knew what as in them, they wouldn't be unidentified. some crappy recording of a moving light in the sky is unconvincing as alien-evidence to anyone with a working brain.
Precisely, that why we need in the name of science poking it, rather then completely ignore it existence rite?
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Precisely, that why we need in the name of science poking it, rather then completely ignore it existence rite?
That's not precisely true. There is no compelling evidence supporting the existence of extra-terrestrial visitations besides persistent eye-witness accounts, hence there is no need to investigate it. I would much rather investigate the existence of unicorns. I have much more compelling evidence for the existence of unicorns than UFOs because I saw one on Ally McBeal, and at least the picture was clear.
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That's not precisely true. There is no compelling evidence supporting the existence of extra-terrestrial visitations besides persistent eye-witness accounts, hence there is no need to investigate it. I would much rather investigate the existence of unicorns. I have much more compelling evidence for the existence of unicorns than UFOs because I saw one on Ally McBeal, and at least the picture was clear.
& yet science can't disprove ET either, esle things like scientific community aka SETI or VOYAGER’S metal plaques inscription ...etc will be a laughting stock too
As for Mythology , remember Sophie's World way of explaining Thor, lightning & troll ?
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Well, though it's very highly probable that there are many other intelligent life forms out there...The number of them close enough to us, developing spaceships that can travel that far a distance at a reasonable time is very low....And the possibility of these few to actually found earth and wanner visit us is....hmmm... 
Unless they found some other way...
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& yet science can't disprove ET either, esle things like scientific community aka SETI or VOYAGER’S metal plaques inscription ...etc will be a laughting stock too
As for Mythology , remember Sophie's World way of explaining Thor, lightning & troll ?
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Well, though it's very highly probable that there are many other intelligent life forms out there...The number of them close enough to us, developing spaceships that can travel that far a distance at a reasonable time is very low....And the possibility of these few to actually found earth and wanner visit us is....hmmm...
Unless they found some other way...
& science created The Drake Equation: N = R* × fp × ne × fl × fi × fc × L .
Maybe those UFO r "unmanned" probe after all, like our Voyagers & Pioneers probe we have.
Hey, this rememdered me the mythical Voyager 6 seen in Star Trek: The Motion Picture that plaque figures prominently in the plot of the movie:
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V'Ger arrives at Earth and signals its Creator. When there is no response, V'Ger blasts energy bolts at the planet in an attempt to rid it of all its carbon infestations. Forced to act, Kirk tells V'Ger he knows why the Creator has not answered. The Ilia-probe, interested by Kirk's remark, says it will cease its attack when Kirk explains. But Kirk replies he will answer to no one but V'Ger itself. With some trepidation, Kirk, Spock, McCoy and Decker are lead by the Ilia-probe outside the ship to the "brain" of V'Ger. At the center of the chamber, the Starfleet officers are surprised to discover that V'Ger is in reality a twentieth century Earth robot space probe. In fact, a mounted plaque looks as though it reads "Voyager VI."
Kirk and his crew discover that the probe disappeared into a black hole and emerged at the other end, crash landing on a planet inhabited by living machines. After repairing the probe, the machines then followed its programming—observe and transmit readings to NASA. Spock deduces that these living machines interpreted those long-ago orders as "Learn all that is learnable and return that information to the Creator."
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Science created Drake Equation? Who created Science then? Humans or was it Aliens!?
Anyway The Drake Equation, is just an Equation, if any of the variables is 0, the final result of the formula is still an astounding ZERO.
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And I'm very puzzled. Why must UFOs be equated with Aliens? What make them(those ufo sighters) so sure that that is not an optical illusion or some sort of aircraft or some natural occurances, or even worse, drug induced hallucinations?
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Anyway The Drake Equation, is just an Equation, if any of the variables is 0, the final result of the formula is still an astounding ZERO.
So does E = mc2 ( *period* till new laws,discovery to redefine it) ...etc , where science is a knowledge accumulated by systematic study and organized by general principles; "mathematics is important for science" .
For better understanding, see SETI Video > Figure the Odds of ET!: How many civilizations exist in our Galaxy? The famous Drake Equation makes an educated guess.
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And I'm very puzzled. Why must UFOs be equated with Aliens? What make them(those ufo sighters) so sure that that is not an optical illusion or some sort of aircraft or some natural occurances, or even worse, drug induced hallucinations?
That is why we need good honest ppl like disclosureproject.org , people either go with this area of investigation in their minds or they don't, and if they don't they tend to pooh-pooh it vehemently.
"The world is a dangerous place to live; not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." -Albert Einstein.
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